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Thursday, November 8, 2012

Facebook and the election

The following interplay was posted on my nephew's Facebook page.  I couldn't help but jump into the fray....

Julian: Obama wins!!
KC: And we lose. May God have mercy on the US.
JC:Oh yes, we should get on our knees!!!
AD: Maybe God wanted Obama to win and you are going against what God wants. That is a no-no for you!!!
Julian:Couldn't agree more!
AD:It's funny how in man's eyes, God usually supports the losers..
KC:God sets the leaders in place, but if we are apart of His family that does not mean that we have to believe in the ways of that leader. Just as Daniel was in a foreign land so are we. He did not follow the ways of the world. So please don't misunderstand because Obama is placed in the leadership role that God trust in his ways. But we are to continue to follow God's ways. If we are His children we don't follow the ways of the world. We live in the world but are not of this world.
JC; (who is the son of KC and a little mouthpiece for daddy)God gave u a choice, that's the beauty u don't seem to understand.[sic]
KC: Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things will be added to you. Matt. 6:33 Seeking God is the key and you will find His will for your life and know His ways.(no surprise here; the easy way out is to go to scripture; it saves one from thinking for himself)
AD:"Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ;"-Ephesians 6:5. To disobey your leaders is to disobey god. (Gotta hand it to the young man here...he gives it right back.)
This Coggin fellow and his son are quick to push for following the leader, when THEY are the leader.  When someone else is the leader...the rules change.
KC:If you think God wants us to kill babies then you are sorely deceived. Understand that we follow God first. Any leader that ask us to go against our God we have a duty to God first and we can not follow just as Joseph did not bow before Pharaoh. (So typical here, instead of sticking it out like a man and truly arguing the point, Keith Coggin ducks weaves and brings in abortion, completely off topic.)
Julian:Just so u know, Andrew Daniels can make an argument over anything. And he always wins..
AD:Who said anything about babies? Now you are just making things up. Plus, if you have a duty to your God first, then please get out of my country. Because in this country, the real-world comes before "your" world. Real people, such as neighbors, friends, and family, are more important than some words in a book. "Learn from the past, look to the future, but
KC: (He knows he's lost the argument)just because you believe a lie, and argue for the sake of it, that's your choice.
JC:hey andrew, first of all the man your arguing with has done more for your country than you'll ever do. second his intellectual level is 10 times more than you'll ever have. so stop arguing with your elders, and maybe one day you'll understand the true meaning of life.(Another shift of topic) and he adds more...the point he was trying to make about life, which you didnt seem to grasp, is legalising arbortion. and not only that, but they also want you to pay for that preson who is arborting the baby. what he was trying to tell you is the democratic party has no moral values.and more...so am and more...so andrew, if you need a history lesson on ''American Government'' dont be shy to call on me. ill be happy to show you how the government began, and how it's intended to run. and by the way, christians are the best law abiding citizens in America.
The I pipe in: Thank God
And a day later I add...Wow Julian nothing like having the joy taken out of your sails by folks going off on tangents about morals and abortion. To say that a married man, with two daughters and one wife is immoral is illogical, unfair and hateful; I am speaking of President Obama of course. Additionally, to hear a person that I can only assume to be evangelical yammering about the Bible and yet I assume supports someone (Mitt Romney) a Mormon; part of a church that 150 years ago decided to follow an American "prophet" and completely bastardize their Christian faith, well that just leaves me shaking my head. I can only guess that Mr. Coggin hasn't figured out, because he lives in a very small and narrow place where those around him look like him, sound like him and think like him, that America has changed. Like it or not America is plural, brown, female, young, un-married and tolerant. Additionally I am a Democrat and a Christian and I also have morals and ethics.As for Coggin Jr. and discussing with elders, perhaps it would do you well to question your elders lest you end up in a like situation.

I then did send my two cents directly to this man...
Keith Coggin
He currently lives in Uganda where he is doing good deeds with children there.  Sadly, he is happy to lump those with which he disagrees into a pile of "sinful" mess. 

To that I take exception. This especially when folks like this feel inclined to go thousands of miles away to do good deeds when there is a whole lot of need right in their own backyard.

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